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Club forums are a haven for football fans

By daib0 in

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4 months ago
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By daib0 4 months ago
I was very pleased to read this article, after having good and bad experiences on over 60 football forums up and down the country:





Club forums are a haven for football fans in an ever angrier online world





Whereas YouTube and Twitter amplify rants, club forums offer kinship, humour and a place to open up to like-minded people



Earlier this year a Brighton fan who uses the pseudonym Last Summer posted to the web forum North Stand Chat. It was one of the 50 or so new discussions started on there by a supporter every day and one of hundreds of posts he had contributed over the last decade. “Apologies for the Mumsnet-type thread,” he began as he calmly explained that he and his wife had split up after 14 years together and he was in need of advice from fellow fans. “Hurts like hell at the moment and the thought of now having to live my life without her is destroying me,” he wrote, before adding: “There’s loads of advice and stuff online that I could Google – but they ain’t Brighton.”



And he was right. Over the next few days dozens of men – and it was all men – took the opportunity to publish at length, and in many private messages, about how they had coped after going through a divorce. Some posters shared practical financial advice, tips on maintaining relationships with their children and how to avoid conflict with a former partner. But most, perhaps encouraged by the support that was forthcoming and the friendly environment, were confident enough to share intimate and honest details about how they felt and how their mental health had been affected then and now. The original poster came back online later to thank the contributors to the thread.



Online football forums seemingly had their day a decade ago. The BBC’s now forgotten 606, a spin-off from the weekly radio show, was at one point the biggest football website in the UK. It introduced millions of fans to the universal chatroom tropes: text-fuelled delusion, relentless – and often hilarious – baiting of rivals and enemies, and terrible transfer rumours. But over time the firm grip of abuse, legal threats and apathy killed most of them off.



Gradually fans migrated to the more powerful yet sanitised tools of Facebook to organise protests and amplify dissent. Twitter provided a new home for humour and, more often, anger – this time directed personally at naive players. Cheap tech such as smartphones combined with YouTube’s reach meant the swearfests of fan TV and vlogs attracted younger supporters.



Brighton too have a thriving fan-powered media ecosystem of podcasts, blogs and zines. Yet North Stand Chat is still standing. A largely text-based forum, it remains part of the daily online routine for thousands of mostly older Albion fans. Its authenticity helps; it emerged out of the fanzine culture and pre-broadband email lists of the late 1990s, and many of the veteran posters were present throughout the Seagulls’ “war years”.

It’s also well run. Lifelong Albion fan Darren Mckay has been in charge for 15 years. Known to posters as Bozza, he organises a group of volunteer moderators who strive to keep it safe and free from legal interference. Well-trafficked websites are expensive to maintain and the forum racks up thousands per year in hosting costs, which it funds through minimal non-intrusive advertising. Any profits go to a range of Albion charities.

But what makes NSC is the people who use it: lawyers, police officers, teachers, car mechanics, plumbers and even a football finance academic. The Brighton CEO, Paul Barber, cannot quite be persuaded to register on the site, but he is prone to writing numerous 1,000-word emails in response to any manner of issues about ticketing, transport and transfers raised by fans, which then end up being published in full for all to read. Their frequent arrival and patient deconstructing of arguments is met with typical NSC humour – the use of the tag #BarberOut to describe any minor petty issue with the club. But Barber acknowledges the role the forum gives him as a platform to communicate directly with fans.



In short, it’s still there because it has become vital to Albion fans for talking about what affects them. Increasingly these days that involves the worries of middle-age such as diets, depression and, sadly, paying tribute to posters who have died, rather than merely football or the club.



Journalist and regular poster Nick Szczepanik sums it up: “It’s the go-to resource for everything. If I want to know what the roads are like before setting off on a journey, I’ll check NSC rather than the AA website, because if there’s a hold-up between Lancing and Worthing, NSC will tell me exactly where, how long it’s been going on, alternative routes, whose fault it is and whether the underlying cause is Corbyn, Brexit or Palace.”



Last summer’s “FAO Divorced of NSC” thread eventually faded off the site’s front page and was replaced by more mundane discussions about buying treadmill machines, what people were drinking on their Friday nights and even the odd row about Chris Hughton’s defensive tactics. One of the last users to post, reflecting on the depth and quality of advice and painful anecdotes shared to help the recently divorced contributor, urged him to stay positive: “You’d be surprised by the love you get from unexpected places.”







Original link: https://www.theguardian.com/football/when-saturday-comes-blog/2018/jul/27/football-fans-internet-club-forums-twitter-youtube-facebook
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Bentent 4 months ago
Good post that

Our own little forum has a lot of diverse threads on it too especially when most posters aren't able to comment on the football being played by the club at the moment due to NAPM

Hopefully we can all go back soon and have some meaningful footie discussion
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By whitstabletangerine 4 months ago
Great post David, I believe on here we have had some wonderful threads, certainly some have been humorous, some heart wrenching and some informative.

There will always be conflicts of opinion especially when it comes to players ability, politics and religion followed by name calling and a few choice words, but the essential point is to remember that none of us are necessarily right in what we say, we just believe in our own minds we are right.

We can an do help each other particularly when things go badly wrong, we might whinge and moan about one thing or another but we on the whole as a nation are not heartless, yes we hear about the antics of some selfish people but on the whole that is not how the vast majority behave.

I have certainly in my lifetime come across many more good than bad people, not just in this country but also overseas with many giving advice on forums, in fact it was something I picked up on a forum that made me reluctantly contact my doctor that led to an investigation, that had I not received may have had dire consequences.

So three cheers for the forums, well done Steed for setting this one up, you will go down in history.
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RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By TheSteed 4 months ago
whitstabletangerine wrote:

Great post David, I believe on here we have had some wonderful threads, certainly some have been humorous, some heart wrenching and some informative.

There will always be conflicts of opinion especially when it comes to players ability, politics and religion followed by name calling and a few choice words, but the essential point is to remember that none of us are necessarily right in what we say, we just believe in our own minds we are right.

We can an do help each other particularly when things go badly wrong, we might whinge and moan about one thing or another but we on the whole as a nation are not heartless, yes we hear about the antics of some selfish people but on the whole that is not how the vast majority behave.

I have certainly in my lifetime come across many more good than bad people, not just in this country but also overseas with many giving advice on forums, in fact it was something I picked up on a forum that made me reluctantly contact my doctor that led to an investigation, that had I not received may have had dire consequences.

So three cheers for the forums, well done Steed for setting this one up, you will go down in history.





Thanks Whits, very kind :thumbsup:
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By thetruth1953 4 months ago
As Whits says well done Steed I love this forum and the diversity of both topic and poster.

Once again cheers Steed
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By TheSteed 4 months ago
It's mostly been a pleasure, except the getting sued bit, but then I won so every cloud...
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Bally 4 months ago
TheSteed wrote:

It's mostly been a pleasure, except the getting sued bit, but then I won so every cloud...





Has the Grim Raper settled up yet?
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By TheSteed 4 months ago
Bally wrote:



Has the Grim Raper settled up yet?





Nope, he's attempting to bullshit his way out of having to.
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By thetruth1953 4 months ago
TheSteed wrote:



Nope, he's attempting to bullshit his way out of having to.





Typical
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By TheSuffolkSeasider 4 months ago
daib0 wrote:

I was very pleased to read this article, after having good and bad experiences on over 60 football forums up and down the country:







Where did they run you out then, daib0?



Interesting article, but I think forums are still dying. Hopefully they will make a comeback because I am not a big fan of twitter!
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By seasider 4 months ago
Forums have certainly been impacted by social media. I still think there isn't a better place to discuss your club. Forums just have to be a little bit smarter and he more than just a football forum. It's that idea that has really driven us to build a new forum. Unless you're Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton, etc, this kind of layout is a bit old school when competing with the might of Social Media.
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Magic147 4 months ago
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RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By seasider 4 months ago
Magic147 wrote:

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RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Magic147 4 months ago
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RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By daib0 4 months ago
TheSuffolkSeasider wrote:



Where did they run you out then, daib0?



Interesting article, but I think forums are still dying. Hopefully they will make a comeback because I am not a big fan of twitter!





Very few:



Here I'm gonna be truthful -

BIRMINGHAM - Birmingham City Fans Forum

They had a good vibe, until a mod suddenly asked me to not make reference by URLs to Royals Rendezvous. So when we played together I asked them to contribute any comments - but by revealing the link of our match thread I got a 90-year ban, soon after revoked by the new mod team. But damage was done ...



ARSENAL - Arsenal Mania

Got a ban for something ... that I've got no idea of. I wrote to their mods, but they didn't even bother replying to explain. I'd made a few innocent posts - well, you know me - and a long piece on a joint 'hero': Brian McDermott. Was he so hated there? I don't think so!



BRISTOL CITY - Cider Head

After signing up, they said it was inappropiate to put another team as a fan in the signature! Blocked from posting ...





Apart from those, I've defended myself on a few other difficult forums! I'd mention that on Not 606 the Rotherham & Millwall boards are the worst without a question of doubt (must've posted on two dozen boards there at least), but others have been great: such as Not 606 Hull/QPR/Norwich/Middlesbrough/Leeds etc.

I've never had any probs on JA606 although I know quite a few people have; again, suppose it's what board you go on.

Tough but certaintly not impossible if you show respect but give as good as you get: West Ham - Cockney Boys Talk, Leeds - Dirty Leeds Forum, Swansea - Planet Swans and a little etc. Stevenage - Boro Chat are real B*gg*rs but even there you can converse!!



But like BHS - there is no-one, you are THE TOPS! :heart::heart::heart:
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By thetruth1953 4 months ago
Their loss daib0 I think you bring plenty to a forum even jokes.
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By KoreanHammer 4 months ago
I post on KUMB but if you aren't a West Ham fan I suspect you wont be welcome there.
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Qblock87 4 months ago
KoreanHammer wrote:

I post on KUMB but if you aren't a West Ham fan I suspect you wont be welcome there.





I kumb on posts. In fact I’m barred from 3 farms a school and a park.
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By daib0 4 months ago
KoreanHammer wrote:

I post on KUMB but if you aren't a West Ham fan I suspect you wont be welcome there.





this hammers site was good - http://cockneyboys.forumotion.co.uk/forum - didn't get told to f-off once, but nowadays hardly any posting so not worthwhile for an away fan...
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Qblock87 4 months ago
thetruth1953 wrote:

Their loss daib0 I think you bring plenty to a forum even jokes.





Jokes?? Is that what you call them?
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By daib0 4 months ago
Qblock87 wrote:



Jokes?? Is that what you call them?





just put one up on the hosepipe ban thread!! :laugh:
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Hero-of-the-night 4 months ago
Qblock87 wrote:



I kumb on posts. In fact I’m barred from 3 farms a school and a park.





I read that site sometimes! Some very nice posts when Jimmy passed away.

The Charlton board is a good read too.
RE: Club forums are a haven for football fans
By Magic147 4 months ago
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